Dear Larry, just to show you what can be done with FB^3, you may take a look at "Herbie's Dialogs" on Staz's web page. I used a modified version of the Toolbox Runtime that results in very compact applications. However, be aware that native PPC code _always_ is more corpulent than 68k code that you will produce with FB II. With respect to D&D, I am very much interested in this topic (FB^3) because I shall start a little project during the X-mas holidays... Best Herbie ******************************** H.Glu@...