i think delphi is the language i want to use to port some of my stuff to the p.c. platform. small executeables that need no .dll's, right?, and relatively easy to port, that's what i want. george, i remember you use delphi, so i'll contact you, but could any other delphi users hit me backchannel, please?, so i can throw a couple of questions at ya? anyone else who has input, also please feel free... thanks... -bowerbird