>You know, I've been trying to use FB for my AppleTalk project for weeks >....and I'm getting NOWHERE (despite the efforts of some off you >here....which I really do appreciate). This is why I asked about plugins for FB3. Plugins were promised one year ago to be available now, but things are going in the OS x direction, which is quite important. If someone were able to write and sell an AppleTalk and TCP/ip plugin then Staz and Andy would have less nitty gritty work to do, and the product would be better IMHO. But I keep getting shouted down. Peter "Through our efforts, oneness perfects itself" Idoru by William Gibson