>>Plus they say they really  don't want to support the mac, it is just a way 
to convert over to PC and drag us down into the VB world.<<

I was purposely not going to respond to your post Wiz (for a couple reasons), 
but I am puzzled by the above statement. The PC already has a VB from MS. Is 
that who they really want to go after? I think we all have an opinion of MS 
and their "business practices", but one thing is for sure - if you want to 
take on the 9000 lbs gorilla you better be wearing a titanium suit and have 
an Abrams tank at your side. Neither of which I believe "they" have.

>>Down load the demo, and see how much less of a product it is...<<

I have tried the SuperSocket demo (for access to AppleTalk)...it is 
impressive.

Jeff-