covington said: > When I do a carriage return for instance, > how far down does the pen move to render/print the next line, > and is this a font specific item? > If so, how does one gain this value, and what is it called? i just put the cursor at a specific location, print, get the new location, and subtract the difference. print %(0,100);'""; print "" newlocation=window(_penv) lineheight=newlocation-100 *** ian said: > Are you looking for USR Fontheight ? and robert said: > Nah, I am looking for > USR How Much Vertical Space Between Lines Height. i think that's precisely what "usr fontheight" is, robert... (thanks for reminding me what it was, ian...) but feel free to use my home-made method if you prefer... -bowerbird