After lots of digging around, I finally was able to update Derek's DrawSprocket example to work natively in Mac OS X. I posted the source on my FutureBASIC page, http://www.foxchange.com/~matt/futurebasic/ There are some other Mac OS X example up there as well.. more to come. -- "Anklebiter" Matthew Beedle http://www.foxchange.com/~matt/