covington said: > Planet FB will still rule supreme I bet, > just maybe by not so much. andy's creativity will exhibit itself in ways that mars can't. and vice versa. it's fairly clear though that f.b. mac-side apps will be smaller and faster than their r.b. mac equivalents. and this will keep both tools in the chest of basic programmers. (f.b. because that's the way to make the superior app head-to-head on the mac, and r.b. because that's the easiest way to leverage a p.c.-side app out of the code.) so keeping f.b. small and fast is important. thus the contributions of all you geniuses here on the list making f.b. as fast and small as possible is a big help, and your contribution to stazandy is hereby fully noted... :+) -bowerbird