>I'm be interested in both these, however, <snip> >do you guys have access to a website you can upload to >so I can get it like that? You can send them to me between 9AM and 4PM CST tomorrow, and I'll put them at the STI FB site under "Programs", if they're in FB and free for downloading. If they're "limited distribution", I can put them there _without_ the HTML page being updated, you can give out the direct URL, and when you say so, I'll delete them from the site... That offer is open for _anything_ written in FB that does not include source; if it has source, or is an FB utility (like Mars' profiler) then send it to the webring instead... The <http://www.stiinc.com/FB/> site is _yours_, the folks on this list, as a place to put things - within reason, of course. (It's not a place for your home pages, for example.) But I got 200Mb of space, and don't mind in the least filling it up! Bill <mailto:BMichael@...>