Rick wrote: >I know this is a complex topic: I'm working on a "Pointers & Handles" >tutorial, soon to appear on my web site, which hopefully will create >some sense out of all this. > >- Rick way to go Rick!! Just when I think I have it you come along in another response with just a bit more information that sends me off contemplating the uneasy thought that I don't really have it all.. at least not completely. The idea of a tutorial is an excellant move. May I humbly suggest that you include some Do's and Do Not Do's in your tutorial... like the FB manuals did in some other topics. And, if you're really in a good mood, try "If you want to do this, then do it this way.." kinds of examples. I have been reading your responses for quite some time on various subjects and I am amazed that you take the time to give examples to re-enforce your point. Please consider that a compliment and build on it as you develop your tutorial. Bill