I'm doing a detailed exploration of all the information returned by FN GETCATINFO, and now I'm into the really obscure stuff. among the "extended Finder info" that GETCATINFO returns for folders (ioDrFndrInfo), there's a sub-field called "frOpenChain," which I'm trying to figure out. Inside Mac describes it only as a "directory ID chain of open folders." I thought it might have something to do with the chain of little "triangle toggles" in the directory's Finder window, but I can't find any pattern to the results. 90% of the time, I get the value $C3400000, and the other 10% of the time, the value $00000000. Never anything else. Doesn't seem to matter what folder I choose, nor what folders are open on the Desktop, nor anything else I can think of. Anybody have a clue? Thanks. - Rick